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PostSubject: Uganda trying put gays to death   Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:23 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo77w_71hA0 Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Uganda trying put gays to death   Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:19 pm

-Dj- wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo77w_71hA0 Rolling Eyes


Jeeeeez, what the hell year is it again? Shocked

That, right there, is what's wrong with religion.
Religion is run by 'man'.
'Man' are idiots, who fear everything they don't understand.
And thus people are made to fear for their lives because of the stupidity of others.

We'll never evolve to the point that we'll be able to understand god properly, b/c we'll all have killed ourselves first trying to stomp out everything we're afraid of.

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PostSubject: Re: Uganda trying put gays to death   Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:38 pm

Such a load of bullshit, the church preaches that gays are against nature, if they are against nature why did "god" give us homosexuality to begin with?

Wasn't able to watch the video on copyright grounds etc.

Humankind have some basic rights.......the right to life, the right to education, the right to political and religious freedom, the right to pursue happiness.

If a man loves another man, it is not a conscious decision, it is the way he feels in his heart. We have as much control over who we fall in love with as we do over the tides, sunrise, wind, and the fact that spicy food is going to destroy your will to live on the way out.

If anything goes against God or nature in this debate, it is persecution, in all in it's forms, we don't understand it or it is not our way of life, therefore it is wrong, yeah right.

I've not seen much of the world, but I've seen enough to appreciate that people will live in the way that suits them and makes them happy.

I'm not gonna go over to France and tell them to get the hell away from me with the wine because I'd prefer a Guinness.

Most "civilised" countries still have a pretty backward view on homosexuality. People in my hometown still use gay/faggot as an insult.

The way I've kinda looked at it is, if another man is going to be gay, so be it, frees up another woman for me.

If these people were anything near Christian, they would live by some of the better words of Jesus.

"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

No one is perfect, and if the gays are going to be judged I'm gonna throw in my piece: Fair f**king play to ya for having the balls to live the way you want to.

If ignorance is bliss why the hell are these people so violent?
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PostSubject: Re: Uganda trying put gays to death   Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:45 pm

insomniac14 use a USA proxy

its sad mostly everone there agree with this bill
what happen to human rights?
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PostSubject: Re: Uganda trying put gays to death   Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:34 pm

Forget that, the Church is dieing out, nothing more than a bunch of old men trying to hold on to their dieing influence and tradition, when was the bible written? The Old Testament goes back to over 1000 years before Christ and even if you don't follow the Old Testament then the Bible was first written during the Roman Empire, which officially fell centuries ago and even then the Bible was written over 1000 years before that, I guess I am just preaching my agnostic views here but honestly show me proof that everything in the Bible is 100% fact, you can't because you weren't there! All the Bible is a matter of faith and guess what, faith has almost NO use anymore, of course it did during the Middle Ages when you could drop dead at any second but now, with the technology and all of that stuff, faith has no purpose anymore
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PostSubject: Re: Uganda trying put gays to death   Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:46 pm

Vrals597 wrote:
Forget that, the Church is dieing out, nothing more than a bunch of old men trying to hold on to their dieing influence and tradition, when was the bible written? The Old Testament goes back to over 1000 years before Christ and even if you don't follow the Old Testament then the Bible was first written during the Roman Empire, which officially fell centuries ago and even then the Bible was written over 1000 years before that, I guess I am just preaching my agnostic views here but honestly show me proof that everything in the Bible is 100% fact, you can't because you weren't there! All the Bible is a matter of faith and guess what, faith has almost NO use anymore, of course it did during the Middle Ages when you could drop dead at any second but now, with the technology and all of that stuff, faith has no purpose anymore


While I definitely can see your point; only the last section has me disagreeing. Faith still has a HUGE purpose to millions of people out there. Replace the word faith and switch that with the church, then I can see myself understanding better. But if you take away faith from billions of people, that is a pillar of strength, a example of morality and so on that people draw from. No, faith is as necessary as ever. The church on the other hand, some can believe that its purpose has died away.

However, you can be sure the Church does not condone the murdering of ANYBODY. Not that I'm in a position to speak for the vatican hehe.

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PostSubject: Re: Uganda trying put gays to death   Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:18 pm

True, I was really speaking for a small section of the world, the Middle East, parts of Africa, Latin America, and parts of Asia still need faith to be a large part of their life, but seriously the Vatican just keeps trying to do what it did for centuries without realizing that it is dieing, I mean with the increase in education who needs someone to tell them how to interpret the Bible? They can interpret it for themselves now!
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PostSubject: Re: Uganda trying put gays to death   Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:51 pm

this bill goes
who next? white people ?
the bible says white people are evil
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PostSubject: Re: Uganda trying put gays to death   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:10 am

Dj, remember that they were ruled by the Roman Empire who was predominately Caucasian
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PostSubject: Re: Uganda trying put gays to death   Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:48 pm

Firstly, I am going to have to agree with Raistlin, my view of Faith is your belief system, which I see personally as a different entity to your religous views.
Everyone on this planet has to have faith in something, or someone, otherwise you are alone, truly alone, and believe me, that is not a place you want to find yourself.

The churches influence is dying, because people are getting more educated, because the church is not moving with the times, and because, as was the case in the dark ages, the church is once again among the most corrupt organisations on the face of the earth.

The bible, although possibly intended by it's authors as fact, serves more in my view as a collection of stories with an underlying moral, which is why it is open to such interpretation.

This post will be edited quite soon as I have some things to think about.
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